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Summary of the Public Submissions up to No. 193, the Draft Recommendation Submissions up to No. 418, and the public hearing transcripts from around the country. |
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Australian Government Productivity Commission Conservation of Australia's Historic heritage Places Inquiry 2005Click link to index page - then individual Submission number for full details. http://www.pc.gov.au/inquiry/heritage/subs/sublist.html Transcripts Adelaide Melbourne Perth Canberra Brisbane |
| Transcripts from the 2nd Adelaide Hearing, 10th February, 2006 |
| P255 Ian George Self interest Church buildings - 13 years just retired Heritage Authority SA. Plea for funding - gives in copy submission from Mr Matheson about "charities" and new approach needed for 'non-profits' - cites bad experience with an Adelaide Land Management Plan whether negotiated can really be adequately supervised and enforced. LM Plans completely ignored by developer |
| P260 Jane Lomax-Smith - (Minister for Adelaide - Tourism & Education) Shocked by the conclusions and recommendations in Draft Report. Voluntary listing - no reflection of community values - reduced property rights exist under planning laws - * voluntary listing in this State and it's been a sad and sorry affair - North Adelaide Heritage Survey - heritage consultants listed 246 buildings - 104 objections * 2nd consultant employed - 10 of the objected properties subject to applications for demolition within 3 months - ..."I seriously believe that one of the issues about Adelaide was that the deletion and addition of properties was capricious and without the advice of an expert and it could not be substantiated & I think that listing has to be entirely transparent, entirely reproducable and with justification." Cmr. BYRON -- "There is nothing whatsoever in our report that would change the system for interim protection orders." *Argument about voluntary v. negotiated agreements. J-LO - They are the same as voluntary - BYRON - no they're not J-LO ..."it would appear to me your'e working on a solution for a minority of problems..." |
| Councillor Ms MOORE (St. Peters) - Horrified by the Commissions' Draft Report - owner of a 1920's cottage. Tax concessions |
| P282 Australian Council of National Trusts 8 National Trusts 90,000 members - Conservation agreements won't do much - cost not explored - conservation covenants - conservation agreements should be in perpetuity - MOLESWORTH "Let me say, going back to this self-selecting flaw which we say is a fundamental issue with respect to that recommendation - that is, internationally in every system of heritage that we can study the determination of significance is an exercise that must precede a decision on how one then deals with the place." |
| P312 Mark Richards - David Miller - Victor Harbor On behalf of property owners & RSL - compliance approach is a big problem |
| p312 Ms Gabrielle Overton - private individual land owner representing a group from Norwood ** Listed by Norwood Council by PAR - 2800 homes listed -..." wer'e saying this is heritage by stealth - it's an absolute overkill. It is a blanket burden on individuals and it has come with no consultation. All minutes of the agendas of Council have been done in camera - not available for next 12 months. *There have been 2 meetings at which we were able to go and speak. We could speak for 5 minutes. We would not be able to ask questions, but we could be required to answer questions". Drive-by heritage listing - 3000 homes (WITH EVERYTHING IN SA BOUGHT UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT ACT 1993 & THE LOCAL GOVT ACT 1999 - NO GENUINE PUBLIC CONSULTATION IS REQUIRED) |
| p331 Jillian Hume - Marion Council Important local councils are not able to add more properties to the list until we see what the Govt does about accepting this Report. 'Significance' not explained by consultants. |
| p341 Peter Jensen - Town Planning Consultants Adelaide PAR's spiel - * Research should only be undertaken by people with tertiary qualifications. Thinks Development Act 1993 is good!! (Repeats protect the Hills Face Zone motherhood statements made over the last 50 years) |
| P356 Shirley McNamara - Heritage Protection Assoc Pt. Adelaide's heritage damaged by DEH - (Rudely cut off by the Commissioner) |
| p363 Ben Moretti - Friends of Unley Developers only value land value - Council planners act as de facto free of charge planning consultants to advise developers |
| P375 Wanda (aged 75) and Murray (aged 80) Chesser, relative of pioneer John White Owners of "Weetunga" - big problem with State Heritage - can you get us out of heritage? |
| P380 Hugh Wigg ** Developers will take no notice of your recommendations - Council and developers work together "...infill development is a flawed concept because the protagonists of it, Planning SA and other groups like that say that building outlying suburbs is far more expensive... |
| p383 Julia Evans - volunteer Mitcham Heritage ** General public knows very little about heritage - no advertising in local paper |
| Melbourne Hearings 14th Feb 2006 |
| P389 Gary Vines (submissions 104 & 198) Your report not based on very hard factual evidence - selective quoting - what is the cost? - suggest annual State of the Envir. Report - different State systems inconsistent - different representations of heritage not taken into consideration - * promote gap studies - Nationally consistent approach - funding - National Heritage Fund or Lottery ** establish a Heritage Lottery Fund "I think other submissions give examples of how the HLF has worked very effectively" - need public education - confusion of lists - |
| p405 Dr. Clark - Astronomical Soc Heritage degraded observatory - should be NHL - RNE statement of significance not complete - non-recognition of NH values - * NHL is not pro-active - does not promote - only stops demolition - who is the owner? |
| P417 Julianne Bell - ** Protectors of Public Land Vic Royal Exhibition Building & Carlton Garden WHL fiasco - see their website |
| P425 Jim Sawyer - farmer Vic served notices of heritage listing |
| p442 Margaret - Perth (speaker phone) Have to have independent body - NOT PLANNING - City of Stirling WA - corruption |
| Melbourne Hearings 15 Feb 2006 |
| p474-489 Andrew Woodhouse - Australian Heritage Institute (*Legal) (474-489) An Australia wide institute of local historical societies - suggest a second draft report. ..."It's important to have criteria which are common at the moment we do not." ... Burra Charter unenforceable... "One of the problems with that suggestion is that we believe there's a constitutional issue that arises in .. ..."our understanding is Section 109 of the Constitution only allows federal legislation to override the States if it's inconsistent. Woodhouse - ... the federal govt doesn't have power to institute those recommendations" - * legal precedents - "The idea of a covenant on title is something that the Supreme Courts of Vic and NSW have considered and have basically rejected" (Ed-'109--When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency be invalid.') |
| p532 Ms Rajendran - owner of a heritage listed home nominated without owners knowledge - no research done into statement of significance - no author listed so that you can challenge the statement |
| Canberra Hearings 17 Feb 2006 |
| ACT Heritage Council - Chair Mike Pearson No Local Govt level in Canberra. In the ACT there is no heritage expertise in the Planning Dept |
| Heritage Councils of Australia - Chair Michael Collins * P25 (Draft Rpt) ...fails to consider issues relating to non-built hereitage, such as gardens and stock routes, historic landscapes, archaeological sites and places of historic significance. The Draft Report contains very little analysis of the scale of heritage-related tourism... * The DR does not include a comprehensive analysis of international law in heritage conservation, in particular the DR has not fully outlined those requirements of the convention concerning the protection of rural, cultural and natural heritage, in other words, the World Heritage Convention. |
| Australia ICOMOS ** Professor Mackay p590 Prof. Mackay teaches heritage management at La Trobe - CEO of Australia's largest private sector heritage consultancy - Mackay Report on Heritage Tasmania 2005 100,000 listed places in Australia |
| Save Braidwood - John Mathias p614 500 members |
| Save the Regent, Brisbane - Jack Kershaw p624 Save the Regent campaign 1977 40,000 supporters - Ministers veto - Heritage planning has become extremely turgid and bogged down, stupid in many cases, under-resourced almost in some cases unwanted in planning depts and misunderstood. Should be economic alternatives |
| David Young - heritage consultant Former member of the SA Heritage Council - Chairs NSW technical advisory group. Convenor of Aus ICOMOS working group that revised the Burra Charter raising standards of preservation.
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